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  • 6.7.2008

    Time travel IV: Fragment of a disputation

    On a recent train journey I witnessed by chance an interesting conversation about time travel. One of the participants championed the idea that time travel might be possible; the other seemed to oppose that view. Although I'll have to render the discussion from memory, and thus introduce some inevitable inaccuracies, I hope to be able to report the lines of the argument clearly and faithfully enough to get an impression across.


    The Champion opened the discussion with an eloquent portrayal of time travel and the unusual experiences one would have during the trip. (I'm not going to repeat it here - quite a few descriptions in that manner can be found in literature, and even in journalistic writing indeed.)

    The Opponent then answered:
    "I certainly admire your enthusiastic and suggestive portrayal. Who would not want to try out moving through time now, visiting one's own past, or even one's future? And there seems to be a wide-spread desire to do so, to change our temporal location at will. But, if you don't mind, isn't there some misconception at work here?

    I noticed, both in your description and generally in much of the science fiction which features time travel, a certain view of the past: it is depicted in a way that we might call it 'the past world', or 'the world of the past'.

    The past somehow appears then to be a 'world' in the same way as the present world, and the two seem to be related to each other like different parts of a country: they both exist somewhere, and someone who happens to be located in one of them may travel to the other by means of some transportation device. Obviously, to get from a part of a country to another part, the means of transportation would be one that allows traveling in space - a train, for example. But to get from one time to another, one would have to use a machine of which we don't know anything yet - it hasn't been invented so far. Therefore, the technical details must remain subject to poetic license.

    Talking, as we do, about fiction, this is fine of course. We should note, however, that time travel fiction tends to emphasize the similarities between traveling in space and in time, while all the differences we would expect are often simply attributed to the mysterious nature of the time machine (of which, by definition, we don't know anything).

    Well, I'm not really convinced by these sketchy analogies. And it doesn't really get better once we attempt to flesh them out. First of all, I cannot see how your world of the past is really not just another place, with characteristics that don't have to do with time, or with the past; it is a fantasy world, which just conveniently happens to be populated with characters from your memories, and from what you know of, or imagine about, history.

    Let's say the time traveler enters a glimmering circle and suddenly finds herself in an unknown environment. How does she know that she is in a 'different time' now? Surely she can't tell from anything she immediately perceives: the heart doesn't beat faster; thoughts are still following each other in (more or less) sequential order; if she drops an item to the floor the events of her letting the item go, the falling down and the impact will happen in proper sequential order and with the expected durations. In short, everything that gives us the perception that time passes by, under normal circumstances, has not changed at all.

    And this is plausible, too. If these things would have changed, we would very probably take this not as an indicator for her being at a different time, but we would think she is now at a different place - a place where the physical conditions that form our familiar environment do not apply. (Some science fiction stories that describe the effects of an altered gravity, such as on the moon or on a different planet, give us a similar account of the changed experiences in their characters.)

    So what does a science fiction writer have to do to convince us now that our time traveler really has arrived 'in the past'? As it seems, there are two typical strategies:

    • The time traveler takes her surroundings to indicate that she must be in an entirely different age, a historical one: the things he perceives, the way people behave, their clothes, their language, the streets and houses, everything just looks precisely how the time traveler (and we, the audience) would have pictured something from that period.

      Obviously, this requires some shared historical knowledge, and certainly also a few assumptions and cliches about that historical period - the science fiction writer has to presuppose this in the audience, and the time-traveling character must be equipped with at least some of this background knowledge also. In the end, it is exactly this knowledge that make us and the time traveler believe that he has arrived in a different time. (The science fiction writer will also have to go some way to convince us and the time traveler that she isn't just dreaming, or in an elaborate illusion theater, or the like.)

    • The author may appeal to memories. You have used such a suggestion yourself, just a few minutes ago: 'One may travel back to the time of one's on youth and be able to look once more at one's birthplace - a house that is now destroyed.' The memory of the house is what does the trick here - if you would merely travel somewhere and look at a certain house, this wouldn't give you the idea that you have traveled in time; but if you recognize it as the house that you remember as the one where you spent your childhood, that idea would suddenly start to make sense under the circumstances (the house being destroyed meanwhile etc.).

    Note that neither of these two variants has actually to do with the concept of time, or the metaphysical status of the past (the question whether it is real or not). The only thing that matters here in the description is the way the world looks, the way people behave, and so on. That is, we are exclusively talking about how things are at that place, how they would look to you if you would visit it.

    To sum up: the account given of the past in all these time travel stories presents it as if it were another place, not another time. That place is then fitted out with features that make it look as if it wasn't just a different place, but also a different place at another time. The idea of travel through time is thus produced only by retrospective, guided re-interpretation; actually, it's not much more than an elaborate theater that is just designed to give us that illusion.

    But in reality the past is not a different location. (The same applies to the future.)

    The champion replied:
    As you yourself said, we may well speak of a 'world of the past'. And it's important: The past is not another place - it's another world. (Or perhaps even a whole series of different worlds.)

    A world comprises many places, which are all there at the same time - in that world. The present is (as is every single past or future) not a place. It's a world. The past into which you can travel to visit your birthplace on your birthday is a different world: complete with all the places, including of course your birthplace (and including yourself also, just being born there). This is the world of the past, a very apt phrase indeed...

    The opponent answered:
    A very misleading phrase, I should say, if taken as literally as you take it. I think I'd rather revoke my using it; there is no 'past world', or 'world of the past', in that sense. There is the present world - and that is the world. It is really there, at every moment, but at any moment it is the only world which exists then. Each later moment, of course, sees the same present world (albeit it has changed). Those later versions of the same world are, for now, still in the future, exactly as earlier versions are now already past. The world exists in every moment, and then it is present - there are no other (past or future) 'worlds' at the same time.

    Champion:
    Now it almost sounds as if you want to say that the past itself doesn't exist at all! I think that's absurd. There is so much in the past that influences, and even determines, the present, as well as the future. What happens in the world (the 'present world', if you insist on putting it so) is constrained: not just anything could happen, and that is precisely because there is a past that has made present things what they are now.

    Opponent (slightly amused, unless I misread him):
    Although it is, as you're insisting, fully a separate world - something very different from just another place. And yet there seems quite an interchange to be going on between these 'complete' worlds.

    True, we sometimes talk about people, things or events that are 'in the past'. This is a figure of speech that can be misleading. These things have of course really existed or happened. But that doesn't mean that they have to exist (or happen) still, somewhere else. They don't exist or happen anymore now. To say that they have, in the past, doesn't mean that they are (now) somewhere different ('in the past'); it just means that they have been, some time before. Nothing in this implies that they cannot have consequences in the present or the future.

    You exist because your grandfather existed. Now, it may be or not be the case that your grandfather is still alive, but this fact does not make any difference with respect to the dependency of your existence on his existence. In order for you to exist, he must have existed. But he doesn't have to exist any more in the present.

    When we refer to events, things, or persons as being 'in the past'. we speak of the past as if it was something fixed, a sort of super-thing, against which we can compare our memories, and generally all statements in the past tense, in order to tell whether they are true or not. But that picture is again wrong; if a statement in the past tense is true in a verifiable sense at all, it is certainly not because it matches some reference object; statements in the past tense are true or false not because they they correspond to some object, or state of affairs, called 'the past'.

    Champion:
    Well, I agree that we must be careful not to read to much into the way we ordinarily talk. Still, a given statement in the past tense must be either true or false; how could it be so if it is not true or false in the past, that is, it holds in the past world (or doesn't hold, in case it is a falsehood). It gets its truth-value from the past world, it is made true or false by the facts that obtain in that world. Statements in the past tense are made true or false in a way similar to how a statement is made true or false by the present world, if it is in the present tense.

    Opponent:
    I doubt that - statements in the past tense are still made in the present. That is precisely why they have to be in a different tense after all. And they are not identical with statements that have been made in the past (about the same thing). They do have something in common with them indeed, because they are about the same thing. But it doesn't even follow that they have to have the same truth value; it certainly doesn't follow that they are true or false on the same grounds - on the contrary: since they are uttered at different times, what makes them true or false must have different grounds (which also establish those truth-value links).

    Champion:
    Look at it this way: there is a certain parallel between the world of the past and a possible world. A possible world is just as much a complete world; it is what makes statements true if they are qualified with "It's possible that ...". The qualifier plays the same role as the past tense plays for sentences about something past.

    Something you say in past tense is true or false in the past world - which is like the real world in some aspects, and different in others. Your sentences are made true or false by either of them; they are both fully determined worlds. Likewise, something you state to be possible is true in a certain possible world, which is also a world that is similar to the actual world in some respects, and different from it in others.

    Possible worlds are usually somehow derived from the actual world by stipulating some selected facts to be different compared to the actual world, and assuming the rest of them just remains as they actually are. And it's quite the same with the past: it is taken to differ from the present precisely by the facts that have changed since, the rest is still the same. (Only that we obviously cannot stipulate how the past differs from the present.)

    Opponent:
    So we can imagine how the world might have been different - well, but I don't think this means that there must be, as it were, additional worlds, that is, all the 'possible worlds', all of them existing alongside the actual one. When we talk about possible worlds, we're just saying that the world (the single one there is) might have been otherwise in this and that way. It only means that we can think of things and events in the world as varying. A 'possible world', then, is not another world in any substantial sense, but only a set of stipulations telling us what would be different in a given scenario. (Plus the tacit assumption that the rest is to be taken the way it actually is.)

    And we do the same when talking about the past: we describe what was different in the past, what has happened then. Especially when we refer to the more recent past (as opposed to some historical age, about which we only know from books and costume films), we just take it that the world hasn't changed so much since then. (Most of the changes that actually have happened may also be irrelevant for our respective purposes.) So we just talk about it in a way as if it were still the same, except for the specific things we want to refer to. This is because only the latter are relevant, and we express it by putting them in the past tense. There is no need for assuming an entire, complete world around them just for the purpose of making a few remarks about them.

    Champion:
    But there is! There are, as you said, many things that we cannot simply stipulate about the past. What has happened in the past forces us to accept specific differences between the past and the present.

    Opponent:
    Or so it seems. But let us consider this carefully. What accounts for this determinateness? Wouldn't this be exclusively things in the present, which we can currently make out? This is why I think that the truth of statements in the past tense is grounded in what is the case in the present.

    For instance, the fact that you were born is something that we both have good evidence for - after all, you're sitting right here. Maybe you have also some more direct evidence, but whatever that is, it must be something that you can look at, or listen to, right now, that is, in the present. Evidence that only was there sometime, but of which nobody doesn't know anymore, is no evidence at all. (And if it appears again - well, then it's back in the present.) As a sidenote: we have to take the term 'evidence' widely, of course, so that it would include memories, written or spoken reports, any form of records, and so on.

    Still, that all evidence that we may have is always present evidence doesn't mean that we can change it at will. We cannot decide this or that to have happened in the past - it either has or it hasn't. But if we know about that event at all, then we know it from present evidence. If there was no evidence at all, then what would it mean to 'know' about it anyway? This lets us attribute a certain reality to the past: what we think about what happened is true or false, depending on whether things have happened indeed the way we think they happened. Yet our only way to find out is to verify our beliefs and theories about past things against what we know (independently) about it in the present.

    This is also a difference between your 'past world' and the possible worlds that we can use to talk about scenarios, ways the world might have been. A description of a possible world in itself is neither true nor false (as long as we keep to the logically possible and do not allow any contradictions into the description). But how we describe the past is, provided that there is enough evidence at all to determine the truth or falsity of the things we say about it.

    Champion:
    But aren't you contradicting yourself now? You just said that there are elements in the past that make some statements true or false. We can't just describe the past as we like, we must describe it as it was. (And this is where the world of the past is different from any possible world.) But how does that fit with the claim that the truth of statements about the past is grounded in the present?

    Opponent:
    This evidence, unfortunately, is not nearly as complete as it would have to be, if we wanted to derive a full (whatever 'full' can mean in this connection) picture of the past from it, even for a single moment's snapshot. There isn't a single instant about which we know everything (not that we know everything about the present, for that matter). Even if we count everything in that we might learn in the future, even if we did, in fact, count everything in that we possibly could learn (i.e. every bit and piece of information that hasn't been destroyed yet), we wouldn't be near a complete picture without any gaps whatsoever. We have to face the fact, that most information there could have been about the things past is already irretrievably gone.


    Unfortunately, I had to leave the train at this point.


 

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